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. >>> anti-gun advocates are stepping up their efforts for gun laws. as bob barnard reports, there were two rallies yesterday. >> reporter: this was a noontime march on the capitol hill offices of the national rifle association. about 100 people taking part. >> and obviously, it was just the amazing horror ever 20 little children. that was my motivation. >> we are here to alert nra lobbyists to stand down and allow congress to pass laws. >> reporter: the demonstrators confronted by one man. >> if the principal tried to defend the children with a gun, perhaps they could have saved many lives. >> reporter: rally organizers encouraged by president obama's remarks in newtown sunday night. >> are we really prepared to say that wear powerless in the face of such carnage, that the politics are too hard? are we prepared to say that such violence visited on our children year after year after year is somehow the price of our freedom. >> reporter: white house officials acknowledging today changing the nation's gun laws is complicated business. >> i don't have a specific policy outline for you today fr
cliff. the hope is that this is a sign the two sides are trying to kick start negotiations. fox 5's bob barnard has more. >> i hope he with can come together. it is important to avoid the fiscal cliff and to do it the right way. >> reporter: doing it the right with a depends on who you are speaking to. i asked chris van hollen what happens if the white house and republicans in congress cannot reach a deal by january 1st. >> it doesn't necessarily mean january 2nd the world falls apart. but what it does mean is, if you go into january, deeply into january without having resolved these issues, taxes will go up across the board on everybody. that is a big tax increase. >> reporter: and deep across the board spending cuts in defense and other areas of the federal government. >> the plans that the white house has talked about thus far, they couldn't pass either house of the congress. >> reporter: president obama says he will not sign a bill without a tax increase on incomes over $250,000. he met with a room full of ceos in washington today. >> i know that many of you have come down here to t
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